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I Accidentally YourShip
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Posted - 2011.10.19 10:28:00 -
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Why do you mission endlessly? I'm not talking to the people who fuel their expensive pvp habits with missioning, I'm talking about the people who mission and mission to get more ISK, to get a bigger ship so you can get more ISK faster.
Why? I'm curious. Is mission running therapeutic? Is it fun to you? Do you enjoy getting the same small pool of missions over and over again, dominating the same NPCs with a small amount of risk and no artificial path of progression? Unlike most other treadmill games that attach effort to progress EVE does not do that. Ships are disposable, even expensive ships with expensive modules can eventually be replaced. The illusion of progress in this game is skill points which are static in gain. No effort you make improves your character itself in any way, only time does that. Where is the carrot to actively chase?
This is not a flame / troll / bait post, I am a former EVE player who is interested in the viewpoints of missioners who continue to do something that I burned out on due to lack of direction and goal a long time ago. |

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Posted - 2011.10.19 11:35:00 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:
Anyways there is not a single answer, so many players so many reasons. I am sure people can think of many more then the few that I just mentioned.
That is the point of this question, of course there is more than one answer as there are many unique individuals playing this game, and I am curious to see the spread of reasons.
The ship to me is not a form of improvement as the ship is a disposable tool.
I definitely think you nailed it hard on the head with the being rich and/or powerful in a virtual world. That seems like it would be a very common one, even if many people don't like to admit it as it tends to be judged by others as petty and pathetic, which it isn't really.
St Mio wrote:To be the very best, that no one ever was, to blitz them all is my real cause?
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Posted - 2011.10.19 11:41:00 -
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Sam Bowein wrote:Personnally, I do missions to pay for my GTCs.
That's 800M every two months. I'm playing maybe 4 hours a week, and missions allow me to jump right into the action. I tried Incursions, but it's really annoying having to wait for other people to join.
As for the limited amount of missions, well when I'm bored I just change factions ;)
This was my mindset down to the "t" for a few months. But that too lost purpose when I realized that I was just playing so I could play, and not for enjoyment. I found no challenge in missions after I got my Machariel, not that there was any challenge in an Arty Maelstrom either, it just took longer.
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:37:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:I mission when I get bored gatecamping and shooting ppl in a blob. Btw, why do you do what you do in a sandbox? It's all-so-pointless... 
Almost true, I found purpose in suicide ganking other people while I still played for a while, to harvest tears. That was fun for a while.
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:36:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:
When this so obviously is a troll. His statement above is essentially a polite way of asking "how the hell do you people do the same thing over and over again without your head exploding?"
Actually this is a valid viewpoint, this task is tedious and boring to me, I did it for a few months but could not keep it up for longer. That being said humans are not clones of each other, what is boring to one has some value for another. That's why there are differing genres of games.
I want to know what specific enjoyment people get out of it, because I'm curious. You know that thing that makes some people want to discover things and learn new things, not just know what they are told?
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Which is very much "I used to be just like you until I saw the light"
Not at all, there is no light as there is no right and wrong viewpoint. Just people who enjoy different things.
**** this forum is so jaded, I'm glad there are at least some serious answers in my threads.
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:36:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:Self righteous much? The bigger question is why do you care? Seem people like PVP. some people like PVE. Some people enjoy missions. Some people enjoy sitting in station and trading all day. Some people I know run 6 clients (yes 6) in a mining gang all day and then build stuff.
I would venture to guess each person does these activities because they find it enjoyable.
For me, I do it all. I run missions, but eventually get bored. I do some high/low/null pve (exploration). I go on PVP roams with friends.
For me, when I run missions I enjoy kind of 2 aspects. First it's easy isk to rebuild the coffers. I also enjoy running the same missions and see how I can be more efficient. Kind of like racing against myself.
But again I am more curious, why do you care what others find enjoyable? You are the reason this forum needs a downvote feature. Seriously, did you even read the thread?
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:40:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:. Yet he doesn't have a "How can you guys stand to PVP all day?" in warfare or C&P.
Because I know I would be greeted with a WAVE of raging pvpers that would whip into a raging lynch mob at the slightest hint that pvp isn't interesting or fair in this game.
You want to know my viewpoint on pvp in this game? Terribly one sided in almost all non-dueling situations that no amount of skill will get you out of because hey it requires no skill! Tactical planning? Sure! Strategy, you bet. Guess what else requires those things? Missioning. The only difference is the strategies and tactics are static because the fights are static. Therein lies the ONLY difference and it is not a particularly good one. |

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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:45:00 -
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Jessica Issier wrote:I see missioning as a means to an end, the end being blowing other people up  But I did realize that there are FAR better ways to make money and stopped running them a while ago
This is not the type of response I'm really interested in. I'm looking for the viewpoints of the so-judged "carebear" crowd. The people who mission for better ships to mission, not the people who mission for ISK to blow other people up, I already see that viewpoint it was one of mine when I had a subscription. |

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Posted - 2011.10.19 20:27:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:
Probably because most of the time a thread like this is exactly that.
I mean honestly, I am curious what you expected to get out of this thread. You have made it clear the mission grind isn't for you. It clearly is for others. Where you hoping someone would say "i like missions because..." and you would suddenly be like "wow if only i did missions for that reason maybe i'd enjoy it!"
Don't get me wrong, I did not come here to get convinced that missioning was something interesting to do. I just came here purely out of boredom to converse and the viewpoints of some people that are not similar to my own was something I was curious about, as clearly I do not understand their viewpoint, it is not mine.
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Posted - 2011.10.21 16:04:00 -
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Wordle wrote:
But as far as those fabled crazy folks out there who mission all day, every day, I do know of one and he missions in the system I inhabit. He's pretty weird and doesn't PvP. All he does is missions. All he trains for is more missioning ships. I don't know what his deal is, OP. He has been playing EvE since 2006. While you do seem like a troll, your question is valid, but I don't know if the people you're referring to read these forums.
Those are the people I'm looking for, I assume it would be fair after this long that people like that do not frequent / visit the forums at all. Oh well. |
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:33:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote: What makes you think mission runners "mission endlessly"?
No where did I say that, I was looking for mission runners who DO run missions endlessly. Apparently this is less common than expected.
Substantia Nigra wrote:
That's an interesting thought because I consider myself a mission runner, some of the time, but don't view myself as missioning endlessly.
And yet don't meet the criteria of what I'm looking for.
Substantia Nigra wrote:
So, are you only interested in mission runners who meet these particular criteria, or is this how you see mission runners?
I'm looking for people who meet the criteria, not implying that anyone who missions is like this.
Substantia Nigra wrote:
Is this how you see mission running?
If so, your understanding of what mission running is differs quite markedly from mine. Vive la difference (however spelled).
This IS mission running. There are few missions to choose from and they never change. To be more specific this is L4 mission running. Unless you know of some super secret pool of L4 missions that I am unaware of?
Substantia Nigra wrote:
Intriguing insert. Makes me wonder whether OP is actually interested in his posed questions or is more interested in using them as a springboard for espousing some of his views of the universe.
This is my view on ships and progress in EVE in general. I have a viewpoint as I think. I never once said that anything outside of this viewpoint is stupid and/or wrong.
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:41:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote: I am a former EVE player who is interested in the viewpoints of missioners who continue to do something that I burned out on due to lack of direction and goal a long time ago. Hmmmm, I think we have a series of wonderful beer commercials that aptly respond to this ... Yeah right!!
I did not watch your video link but I assume that you are of the opinion that I am either: Not a former player ie still playing, interested in the viewpoints of missioners, or both. I guess my name doesn't really lend to looking like a non-troll either, or the couple suicide ganks on miners on battleclinic.
Regardless, I was interested in the viewpoints of missioners when I first started the topic, but the overwhelmingly defensive response from a clearly jaded crowd has made me lose interest.
Your analysis of my posts was rather amusing, but isn't really on-topic now is it? Perhaps you should post a little more constructively. |

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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:43:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:
2. Don't want to post as your replies mostly come across as troll-ish, even though you state they are not.
Highlight these, please.
Otherwise don't make accusatory statements with no substance. |

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Posted - 2011.10.24 20:01:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Do you enjoy getting the same small pool of missions over and over again, dominating the same NPCs with a small amount of risk and no artificial path of progression?
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This is not a flame / troll / bait post, I am a former EVE player who is interested in the viewpoints of missioners who continue to do something that I burned out on due to lack of direction and goal a long time ago. The one question I left in there makes it sound a LOT like a troll. You might not have intended it that way but on its own, maybe you'll see why some people are offended by it. You're basically belittling missioning with that question.
I noticed that after a while, but I decided against editing it to read in a less offensive and direct manner since what was said was said, and editing like that would ruin the flow of conversation.
This is how it is from an objective, outside viewpoint. There is little risk in the majority of missioning and you do dominate the NPCs. What people take from this fact (and it is a fact for the average player who does a mission) is their issue to be quite honest. If you feel that your missioning experience is diminished in some way because someone said it was a low-risk activity that you tend to dominate, perhaps you need to figure out why this cheapens the experience for you and rectify it or find a different activity for enjoyment.
Note that I only said little risk and dominate NPCs, I never said it was boring, senseless, trivial, stupid, pointless or any other thing that you would have a legitimate reason to be offended by. Those are subjective opinions, what I said was objective, they are irrefutable from the time of posting, for the average mission runner who uses a properly fitted battleship.
Suicide ganking is viewed as a despicable act to many, yet I enjoy it. There is little risk in a well-planned suicide gank, and dominating an unsuspecting and vulnerable player is part of the activity. I still enjoyed it when I did it.
Missioning was fun when I was just getting my feet wet with EVE, but it lost interest as there seemed to be no purpose behind it all, and I did it more to fund my suicide ganks which were not that many (this account was not the suicide account).
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Posted - 2011.10.24 20:40:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:
2. Don't want to post as your replies mostly come across as troll-ish, even though you state they are not.
Highlight these, please. Otherwise don't make accusatory statements with no substance. Already had earlier in the thread.
Those were refuted, and had no merit in any case as they were judged by baseless assumption and no real fact. Yet you still make statements that my replies mostly come across as troll-ish.
Trolling is not having a differing viewpoint. Trolling is replying with inflammatory responses designed to de-rail and or cause a desired response in others that is almost always negative.
You are the troll.
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Posted - 2011.10.24 20:51:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:A better question would be: why do you care? 
You know how people say there is no such thing as a stupid question?
This is a stupid question. I have a reason, whatever it may be. Just like you have a reason for galloping in on your horse to trumpet your unwanted and off-topic points.
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Posted - 2011.10.24 20:59:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:
2. Don't want to post as your replies mostly come across as troll-ish, even though you state they are not.
Highlight these, please. Otherwise don't make accusatory statements with no substance. Already had earlier in the thread. Those were refuted, and had no merit in any case as they were judged by baseless assumption and no real fact. Yet you still make statements that my replies mostly come across as troll-ish. Trolling is not having a differing viewpoint. Trolling is replying with inflammatory responses designed to de-rail and or cause a desired response in others that is almost always negative. You are the troll. You replying =/= a refute. Far more people liked my post, and other posts similar to mine than any of yours. Maybe "bait" would be a more accurate term than "troll" If anything, hopefully you have learned that there are far fewer mindless mission grinders in EVE than you maybe had expected. I think it is fair to surmise from this thread, which holds true to the people I know in game, that a majority of mission runners are doing it as a means of generating isk for other activities.
Actually my replies are a direct refute and since your points were based on nothing but generalization and assumption, they lack fact. Without a fact, if I say it isn't so, it isn't so.
Your posts got liked because there are other incompetent morons who read these threads, just like you, and agree with your flawed points because they would make the same.
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:07:00 -
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I would suggest taking your posts which lack thought process and planning elsewhere, Derath. When you make comments like:
Derath Ellecon wrote: He may not even realize he's trolling, but he is.
it really shows how dimwitted you are. It is impossible to "troll" without knowing you are trolling. You make baseless assumptions, and then don't back them up and take them in another direction when you are refuted. And not just by me, there was another person who voiced their displeasure over your inability to read after your very first post in the thread. Go somewhere more appropriate to your intelligence, like Crime & Punishment.
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:55:00 -
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countertroll wrote:You're one of the better trolls I've seen, I'll give you that much. Your original post was laden with inflammatory comments and both the wording and the general tone were clearly confrontational. Your implicit message was "missions suck, how can you be so unimaginative and so unambitious as to continue on." But you know that already. Kudos, sir, kudos.
Also, if you're not playing, what are you doing? If you're no longer missioning that doesn't leave you with a lot of options. I have to ask, if you don't play EVE anymore, why are you posting and why do you give a ****?

I was bored in class, software engineering in college has some boring classes, so I decided to ask an arbitrary question that I wanted an answer to.
The wording and general tone is not confrontational, perhaps blunt. That is the type of person I am. |

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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:01:00 -
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countertroll wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:countertroll wrote:You're one of the better trolls I've seen, I'll give you that much. Your original post was laden with inflammatory comments and both the wording and the general tone were clearly confrontational. Your implicit message was "missions suck, how can you be so unimaginative and so unambitious as to continue on." But you know that already. Kudos, sir, kudos.
Also, if you're not playing, what are you doing? If you're no longer missioning that doesn't leave you with a lot of options. I have to ask, if you don't play EVE anymore, why are you posting and why do you give a ****?  I was bored in class, software engineering in college has some boring classes, so I decided to ask an arbitrary question that I wanted an answer to. The wording and general tone is not confrontational, perhaps blunt. That is the type of person I am. still excellent sir. calm tone. just enough to invite comment and counterpoint and drag it out. what's giving you away right now is how quickly you're posting. patience, sir, is your only missing virtue. don't worry, one day you can join the ranks of the Greater Trolls.
I tend to reply to something when I notice that there is a response, I have two monitors and it popped up with a (1) in the tab containing this thread. I don't see the purpose in making people wait for responses, or fairy language designed to placate people.
Your viewpoint on trolling and your name has an odd disconnect.
Edit: And stop de-railing my thread. |
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Posted - 2011.10.25 08:07:00 -
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You know what is most amusing about this thread? I just re-subscribed, partially because of this thread, and what am I doing? Missioning. |

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Posted - 2011.10.25 16:36:00 -
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Tanjo Janau wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:You know what is most amusing about this thread? I just re-subscribed, partially because of this thread, and what am I doing? Missioning. :What is your goal?
To blitz them all. |

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Posted - 2011.12.11 21:56:00 -
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El Boracho wrote:Ahh did the mean missioners cause you to cry? I am sure they like your tears.
When you ask a question with as much personal bias that you have let leak through it shows your true intent and immediately pisses people off.
Missions are fun for me in small doses, trade is fun for me in small doses, pvp is fun for me in small doses, etc, etc. Its part of the game and provides some variety.
I find it amusing that I'm API verified on battleclinic (last I checked, might not be with the new API system if the old key is no longer valid) so you can tell exactly what I do with this character. It's clearly not pvp and lol mining. Yet you still think I hate missioners and missioning. |

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Posted - 2011.12.11 23:21:00 -
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Nullbeard Rager wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:SECOND EDIT: Thank you for all the replies from the people who do not qualify under the criteria below. Your replies have not been helpful. To the people who feel that they need to analyse the motive behind my creation of said thread, you are equally useless to the point of the topic, but entertaining nonetheless. To any mission runners who actually replied to the thread with a good answer that I missed, I apologise, the general replies to this thread have killed my interest, which was a fleeting and spontaneous one to begin with.
Why do you mission endlessly? I'm not talking to the people who fuel their expensive pvp habits with missioning, I'm talking about the people who mission and mission to get more ISK, to get a bigger ship so you can get more ISK faster.
Why? I'm curious. Is mission running therapeutic? Is it fun to you? Do you enjoy getting the same small pool of missions over and over again, dominating the same NPCs with a small amount of risk and no artificial path of progression? Unlike most other treadmill games that attach effort to progress EVE does not do that. Ships are disposable, even expensive ships with expensive modules can eventually be replaced. The illusion of progress in this game is skill points which are static in gain. No effort you make improves your character itself in any way, only time does that. Where is the carrot to actively chase?
This is not a flame / troll / bait post, I am a former EVE player who is interested in the viewpoints of missioners who continue to do something that I burned out on due to lack of direction and goal a long time ago. This is a game and thus 99% utterly pointless and silly. Other than learning some business skills and some teamwork and fleet command skills, (most of which are far more applicable to EVE than to real life, yet not entirely without merit), it's a time sink. If you are asking people why they spend time here, then ask that. If you are NOT a troll and really just want a pep talk to keep you in the game then next time say "missions feel pointless to me now" and save everyone the reading of your VERY trollish looking post, okay?
Read the thread before responding, it makes you look inept.
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Posted - 2011.12.11 23:23:00 -
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Flurk Hellbron wrote:I Just guess that there are no players in EVE that do only missioning. But, for most players it is one way amongst many others to make ISK, fill in play time etc.
So maybe find the lonely only missioners first.
Och, and yes I mission too, amongst all other activity's in EVE.
That's the conclusion that the thread had come to but since I started playing again that has not been my experience. I have met multiple hard core mission bears who mission all day just to get more isk to pimp out their already ludicrously fit ship or get a more pimp ship to fly more missions, so they are out there. They are not the majority for sure, and they clearly are not forum readers. |

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Posted - 2011.12.11 23:25:00 -
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I had burned out on EVE months ago when this topic was started. I have since come back and while I still do not enjoy running the missions themselves, the easy ISK they supply me with to fund my other characters is desirable. |

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Posted - 2011.12.12 00:58:00 -
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Nullbeard Rager wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Nullbeard Rager wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:SECOND EDIT: Thank you for all the replies from the people who do not qualify under the criteria below. Your replies have not been helpful. To the people who feel that they need to analyse the motive behind my creation of said thread, you are equally useless to the point of the topic, but entertaining nonetheless. To any mission runners who actually replied to the thread with a good answer that I missed, I apologise, the general replies to this thread have killed my interest, which was a fleeting and spontaneous one to begin with.
Why do you mission endlessly? I'm not talking to the people who fuel their expensive pvp habits with missioning, I'm talking about the people who mission and mission to get more ISK, to get a bigger ship so you can get more ISK faster.
Why? I'm curious. Is mission running therapeutic? Is it fun to you? Do you enjoy getting the same small pool of missions over and over again, dominating the same NPCs with a small amount of risk and no artificial path of progression? Unlike most other treadmill games that attach effort to progress EVE does not do that. Ships are disposable, even expensive ships with expensive modules can eventually be replaced. The illusion of progress in this game is skill points which are static in gain. No effort you make improves your character itself in any way, only time does that. Where is the carrot to actively chase?
This is not a flame / troll / bait post, I am a former EVE player who is interested in the viewpoints of missioners who continue to do something that I burned out on due to lack of direction and goal a long time ago. This is a game and thus 99% utterly pointless and silly. Other than learning some business skills and some teamwork and fleet command skills, (most of which are far more applicable to EVE than to real life, yet not entirely without merit), it's a time sink. If you are asking people why they spend time here, then ask that. If you are NOT a troll and really just want a pep talk to keep you in the game then next time say "missions feel pointless to me now" and save everyone the reading of your VERY trollish looking post, okay? Read the thread before responding, it makes you look inept. Based on the fact that you don't know me and reading what you have written so far makes it unlikely that you have either the experience, education or the intelligence to make such a judgement about me...either way your opinion of me makes me giggle.    Insults like your above response are the very essence of trolling as is your original post. If you genuinely do not realize this, then YOU are inept and incompetent at this sort of conversation. You are either a VERY good troll, as unlikely as that seems, or quite obtuse and unaware of how you sound which seems much more likely. Your forum rhetoric is weak and, based on another post of yours I saw, makes one feel that you are trying hard to get people to think you are smarter and better educated than you are. Good luck with that...here's a cookie! 
You responded to the original post without reading the entire thread. My observation was that it made you look inept, which is does. I did not state that you are inept or uneducated or an idiot, just that your failure to read the entire thread and subsequent post made you look as such. This second post also suggests that not only are you inept but you are easily insulted and a passion driven person. This pleases me in ways that would be inappropriate to describe on a forum board. |

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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:15:00 -
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Thredd Necro wrote:BTW who does your translations? They are very good but clearly english is not your first language.
Yo u caught me dawg. ebonix iz muh motha fuckin first language, ah use uh little chinese boy ta transmalate ta cracker ass english otay buh-weet |

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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:20:00 -
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Nor Tzestu wrote: Why do I mission?
Well, It fits my playtime best of all Eve activities. I have kids/wife etc. Full time job all that hub lub. I can log on, make a little isk and log off. No worries about being on someone's schedule but my own. Ships and stuff? I don't know I guess there is a bit of carrot on a stick about them. I do personally really like the ships in this game. Being able to afford a nice well fitted boat is certainly a worthy goal in my opinion. Not the end all be all of the game, but something you should look forward to. I know people who PVP and they love finally being able to fly "x" ship or fit "x" module. I don't think mission runners have the market cornered on gear hounds.
Missions do have some valuable lessons in them for those willing to learn and adapt. Learning how to maximize your isk outlay, how to effectively work in the markets are all goal's a serious mission runner needs to undertake. Mission runners are the lifeblood of the faction module economy and being able to leverage your LP is a more or less necessary skill at this point in Eve to realize any real profits. Most mission runners also end up developing very good PVP skills ( t2 weapons and tanks) and don't realize it. Getting the use of the best modules in the game to minimize mission times is on every mission runners to do list. Those same skills allow you to have a very solid base for starting PVP down the road.
I know lots of people think of mission runners as morons. That's cool. No skin off my nose. What they don't realize is a efficient mission runner has lots of skills built up and a solid knowledge of most facets of Eve. Sure they aren't gods in a fight, or maybe even very good. There is a lot more to Eve than just shooting people though. And I think if there was a way to get people out in small cheap ships without being instantly roasted by a 10 man gate camp you'd see more people out there. As it is with huge powerblocs, constant hotdrops and general asshattery by the "PVP" public lots of people have better things to do with their hour or two of playtime a night.
Holy crap! A real mission bear! Get it!
Just kidding, glad to see there are some mission bears who actually read the forums. It's your 15 per month, play how you want. |
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